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PostSubject: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 05 Aug 2011, 00:37

UEFA's new law against racism in stadiums, they ban all these symbols:

Here he is:

- Swastika

- Celtic Crosses

- The emblem of the Ku Klux Klan

- Triskelion

- Kolovrat

- The emblem of the "Hammer and Sword," which was used by the soldiers of Hitler (Hitler Youth)

- The emblem of the American racist group "Hammerskins"

- The emblem of the SS Panzer Division "Totenkopf" (skull)

- The emblem of the far-right group "Combat 18"

- Military flag of the German Empire

- Captions with the words White Power

- The emblem of the neo-Nazi political group "Blood & Honour"

- The emblem of the Third Reich

- Fleece "Odal"

- Rune "Tyre"

- Fleece "Gibor"

- Emblem "SS"

- The emblem of the brand of clothing "CoNSDAPLe"

- The emblem of the brand of clothing "Hatecrime"

- The emblem of the brand of clothing "Masterrace Europe"

- The emblem of the brand of clothing "Thor Steinar"

- The emblem of the brand of clothing "Walhall"

- The emblem of the brand of clothing "Werwolf" (Werewolf)

- The emblem of the Polish neo-Nazi organization "Toporzeł"

- The emblem of the Italian neo-Nazi organization "Forza Nuova"

- The emblem of the movement "Russian National Unity" (RNE)

- The flag of Independent State of Croatia (Ustashi flag)

- The emblem of the neo-Nazi organization "Iron Guard"

- The emblem of the British National Front

- The emblem of the British National Party

- The emblem of the neo-Nazi organization "Chrysi Avyi"

- The emblem of the Nazi Party "Alianca Nacional"

- The emblem of the organization "Movimiento Nacional"

- The emblem of the National Democratic Party of Germany

- The emblem of the National Fascist Party "Flame Tricolour"

- The emblem of the organization "White Aryan Resistance"

- Number 14

- Number 18

- Numbers 28

- Number 88

All symbols, signs and logos can be found on the web.

I ask them, why they don't ban Left Wing symbols, anarchists and Islamic?

FUCK UEFA!

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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 05 Aug 2011, 00:51

Simple: left wing parties, anarchism or Islam, with its hits and misses, does not exclude anyone by their appearance.

Racism excludes, in principle, to blacks, so it's fine.

Everyone has the right to be, think and do whatever he wants as long as don't do any harm to anyone else.



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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 05 Aug 2011, 08:20

Left wing, anarchist and all those idiots are worst than the right, so what the fuck are we talking about, you can see we are having major politicians in the EU who are left wing.

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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 05 Aug 2011, 08:54

Although they can be worse (in your opinion), not exclude anyone for their appearance, to difference of the extreme right wing.

On the other hand, discrimination always maintains the status quo of the dominant classes. The extreme right wing it's promoted by big bourgeoises which are followed by idiots who think they are revolutionary but all they do is help this unjust system.


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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 05 Aug 2011, 08:59

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So the "Brains" of communists are then so small that it is not even in the picture cheers
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 05 Aug 2011, 09:12

:thumbsup:

Does Racist include all kind of Racism Very Happy

Beucase i am sure Victor, you hate some kind of people, that makes you Racist too , you know?


what about Nationalist?

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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 05 Aug 2011, 09:25

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Does Racist include all kind of Racism Very Happy

Beucase i am sure Victor, you hate some kind of people, that makes you Racist too , you know?


what about Nationalist?

There is a big difference.

If I do not like the fascists is because they are intolerant with other people.

Why the racist hate blacks? Just because they're black.
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 05 Aug 2011, 09:26

Many fascists show themselves how hard mens of the working-class who have no problems in getting their hands dirty, but feel disgusted by anyone who has darker skin than them. They result be quite delicate people.

In the past, leaders of countries like England, Spain, Portugal, France and Netherlands caused havoc around the world.

They murdered millions of people, destroyed cultures, stole all the resources they could, impoverished whole continents (and still do)...

If caused many disasters, the least you could do is not complain for immigrants who arriving from those places.

In addition, many blacks there are in Europe are descendants of slaves who drew Europeans in Africa.

Moreover, when people across Europe had to go to America (escaping from the world wars) was received with open arms.
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 05 Aug 2011, 09:30

In fact (communist) Stalin murdered more people than Mussolini and Hitler together, and he even killed people from his own country ffs ! And what about (communist) Mao Zedong, he murdered more than Stalin. Commusnism and Fascism are evil brothers but there's not a question that Communism was worse than what fascism ever was !
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 05 Aug 2011, 09:41

In first place, I'm leftist but not communist. You think that all the anti racists are communists, and is a big mistake. Also think that all leftists are communists...

On the other hand, Stalin is one that not even the communists want. But I never saw a nazi who doesn't admire Hitler.

Stalin was a dictator who killed all who opposed him. And many of his opponents were communists.

What I mean is that a communist can even hate Stalin, but never a nazi hate Hitler.

Moreover, communism wasn't created by Stalin. Communism as an ideology, does not exclude anyone. Instead nazism was created by Hitler, who was racist. Nazism is racism as an ideology.
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 05 Aug 2011, 10:01

Also left wingers think all the right wingers are racists or fascists Smile
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 05 Aug 2011, 22:03

Is not this. There isn't problems carrying symbols of right-wing parties if they are not neo-nazis or close to fascism (who implies racism).

Also, I wasn't talking about politics and you speaks against communism (defending racism). I see that you have some sympathy for racism and you thought that if I'm be against racism is because I was communist...
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 05 Aug 2011, 22:51

Let me ask you, why do you hate the racists that much?

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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 05 Aug 2011, 23:18

I really not hate them much, I hate those who walk in groups hitting homeless, blacks, etc.. Even if are children or women.

So, I don't like racists because they are intolerant.

You can not judge people by how they were born.

Among other things, such as political ideology, religion, etc., one may disagree with some people, but if people do not bother anyone with their activity, I think there is no reason to hate them.

So I can say that I am intolerant with those who are intolerant for reasons like that.

It's like saying "take your own medicine," I do not know if you understand.

How would feel the discriminators if they were treated like trash for some reason beyond his attitude?

They or someone close to them. Well, that's how they make feel to other people all the time.

For example, I want to see if a fascist had a son with Down syndrome and that kid would were discriminated against by someone who thinks he is better and more perfect, how would to react...
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Sat 06 Aug 2011, 07:52

Do you love 'Antifa' then ?
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Sat 06 Aug 2011, 10:27

I don't "love" it but obviously I am in favor of anti-fascism.

The anti-fascists are the ones that counter the fascists on the streets.
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Sat 06 Aug 2011, 10:30

Antifa members are the real troublemakers, much worse than neo-naziz or fascists.
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Sat 06 Aug 2011, 15:21

The "racists" don't only fight against one clean white europe, but also againt criminality, corruption, gayness, drugs, and many other things which fault is mostly stinky immigrants

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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Sat 06 Aug 2011, 21:06

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Antifa members are the real troublemakers, much worse than neo-naziz or fascists.

But they only attack the fascists, which is fine.
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Sat 06 Aug 2011, 21:24

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The "racists" don't only fight against one clean white europe, but also againt criminality, corruption, gayness, drugs, and many other things which fault is mostly stinky immigrants

When the people of Eastern Europe was needed immigrated to America.

The same thing happens now with the Africans who go to Eastern Europe, which, however, are not so many.

As for Western Europe, countries of the region are in large part, that caused the misery in other continents, so people should not complain if their countries receive immigrants from places that their own leaders destroyed in the past.

Before judging these poor people looking for opportunities, they have to judge their damn governments (current or past), some of which continue to cause poverty in other parts of the world.

So, fuck you for ruining half the world for hundreds of years.

I have also clear that not all Europeans are fucking bastards. In all the countries of the world there are good and bad people.
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Sat 06 Aug 2011, 22:22

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Antifa members are the real troublemakers, much worse than neo-naziz or fascists.

But they only attack the fascists, which is fine.

And fascists attacks into the antifascum, which is fine.
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Sun 07 Aug 2011, 01:33

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The "racists" don't only fight against one clean white europe, but also againt criminality, corruption, gayness, drugs, and many other things which fault is mostly stinky immigrants

When the people of Eastern Europe was needed immigrated to America.

The same thing happens now with the Africans who go to Eastern Europe, which, however, are not so many.

As for Western Europe, countries of the region are in large part, that caused the misery in other continents, so people should not complain if their countries receive immigrants from places that their own leaders destroyed in the past.

Before judging these poor people looking for opportunities, they have to judge their damn governments (current or past), some of which continue to cause poverty in other parts of the world.

So, fuck you for ruining half the world for hundreds of years.

I have also clear that not all Europeans are fucking bastards. In all the countries of the world there are good and bad people.

Well i cant say Bulgaria fucked much of the world, actually they kind of shit on us, Turks, Americans.


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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Thu 11 Aug 2011, 21:24

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And fascists attacks into the antifascum, which is fine.

But the nazis attack blacks, beggars, vagrants, etc. while the anti fascists attack the nazis for being intolerant, which is fine.
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 12 Aug 2011, 17:44

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while the anti fascists attack the nazis for being intolerant, which is fine.

Its in human nature to be intolerant to those who are doing harm to your country,and since i don't have time,i wont comment on black behavior,illegal immigration,gypsy beggar mafia,and similar problems we face.Since you are coming from a country which is "melting pot" you do not understand how native Europeans feel about problems i listed,and since in every country nationalism is moved from underground to terraces,it is our duty to keep our country clean.
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PostSubject: Re: UEFA Agaisnt racist symbols   Fri 12 Aug 2011, 20:17

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Its in human nature to be intolerant to those who are doing harm to your country,and since i don't have time,i wont comment on black behavior,illegal immigration,gypsy beggar mafia,and similar problems we face.Since you are coming from a country which is "melting pot" you do not understand how native Europeans feel about problems i listed,and since in every country nationalism is moved from underground to terraces,it is our duty to keep our country clean.

If in all America were accepted the Europeans who came to seek a better future (and they were all poor), why you do not accept people from other countries seeking the same?

My country is a melting pot because were accepted people from everywhere but also because Native Americans were nearly exterminated by the Europeans.

Native Americans should be the majority here, but them were murdered in mass and their culture was destroyed almost completely. The languages ​​and religions of most of the people of America are from the invaders. However there are not many natives resentful with the descendants of Europeans. In fact, what sometimes happens is that the descendants of Europeans despise and discriminate against Native Americans.

I know what think the nationalists, here also there are. Here are problems with immigrants from neighboring countries (Paraguay, Bolivia, etc.).

Some people think that the Bolivians and Paraguayans will destroy the Argentine culture (mainly people from the central region of the country, where are located the richest provinces, where are more quantity the European descendents and where in the past had also discrimination against people of the north), when in fact their culture is the original of these lands.

In fact, the region where I live is very similar to Paraguay in all aspects, and there is other region of Argentina wich is very similar to Bolivia.
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